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kris10 February 26th, 2005, 02:12 PM I am considering maybe an entry level Canon digital. I don't want to spend too much because I will probably still primarily shoot film but I am interested in possibly buying one of these sooner or later. What are your thoughts and opinions. I know there are lots of Canon users in here and I have heard lots of great things about Canon digital so check this link out and let me know your thoughts.....Thanks in advance...!
http://www.wolfcamera.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10101&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&productId=13077951&bct=c5767551
ohenry February 26th, 2005, 03:32 PM Well, my first thought is that if you're looking for a digital camera, the camera in the link you gave is NOT a digital camera.
Canon's digital SLRs are: DRebel (300D), 350D (newest Rebel), 10D, 20D, 1D, 1Ds. (older models include D30 and D60).
The 350D will retail around $899 and the older Rebel price should drop to $599.
The 10D is discontinued but can still be found around $1100. The 20D retails around 1500, but can be found online at reputable places for $1350 or so. The 1D is $4000 and the 1Ds is $8000.
kris10 February 26th, 2005, 03:51 PM HOWY CWAP... :shock: ....I may just stay with mine for a while.
kixphotography February 27th, 2005, 06:20 AM Another bit of advice; don't buy it from wolf camera either. Try B&H photo or some other strongly reputable company. And, yes dslr's are rather expensive.
Tom Lucas March 11th, 2005, 10:02 PM Hey Kris,
I have the 300D (Digital Rebel) and I'm very happy with it. I think it's a wonderful camera for a beginner such as myself. Although pretty soon I'll be ready to upgrade to the 20D..
Happy Shopping..
Tom
kris10 March 12th, 2005, 02:30 AM Thank you very much for the advice Tom. I wish camera places would let you "rent" or "test drive" a camera before you buy it. Like a display model. A store who offers this service could request a fairly large deposit (maybe even up to the amount it would cost to replace it). I bet with digital that they could also put some kind of chip in it to disable it if they didn't bring it back...;). It would be worth the refundable deposit to get to experiment with one before you bought it.
GerryDavid March 12th, 2005, 02:52 AM You could just go to a store and see thier display model. But if you dont buy it there, and buy it online for less you are sort of slapping them.
There are companies that rent camera gear, so you can test it out first.
And some stores like futureshop *maybe bestbuy* let you take it back within 30 days if you dont want it.
I dont think wolfcamera is one of those shady stores, but I would check their review first. Amazon.com seems pretty cheap, for the next couple days I think, they have a deal where if you spend $1000 or more you get a gift certificate for $100 in 6 or 8 weeks *long enough to make sure you dont return it*. $50 if you spend between $500 and $999.99. Then if you get thier credit card, $30 more off. And then 3% reward points, im not sure how those work.
If I had the money, I would go for the 350d right now from amazon with that $100 rebate deal, then get some lenses to get the 2nd $50 rebate deal.
GerryDavid March 12th, 2005, 02:55 AM Oh ya, dell also had a deal for a Canon 10-22mm F3.5-4.5 wide angle lens. $800 minus $120 or something instantly, then another $100 discount with a coupon, making it cheaper than the Sigma 15-30mm for a wider lens, which is $650. I think that deal is over with now though.
Theres lots of deals to be found online.
kris10 March 12th, 2005, 03:01 AM I am definitely looking online. I won't be buying digital tomorrow or anything because right now I just want my 80-300mm zoom and a circular polarizer. I may try to get the dedicated flash for my camera too though I really don't know what to look for in a flash. I HATE my onboard flash and try to not have to use it at all because I don't believe it changes based on my settings meaning I will only get that bright burst of light and if I am too close or my subject wears glasses, I get terrible reflections. I am researching that online too.
Anyway, wish me luck. I can't wait to shoot with a zoom.....!!!!!!!!!! (AND A POLARIZER TOO!!!)
GerryDavid March 12th, 2005, 03:13 AM Apperantly there was a deal with the 300d in December. 3 rebates totalling around $400 or $500, bringing the cost of the camera down to $600 at the time.
For a flash I use a vivitar 285, but I would like to get a canon flash *its not high on my list though* to use the ttl metering to allow me to use the flash faster.
When your looking at flashes, the higher the guide number *GN* the better. The larger it is, the farther away the subject can be, and still get enough light. Recycle time can also be important if you want to be able to take a bunch of pictures in a row.
Using the formula fstop = gn/distance tells you what fstop to use if you do it manually. Shutter speed doesnt play a part in this other than using a shutter speed that is slow enough to capture the flash, unless you want ambient light to fill in the background, and the subject somewhat.
Cleo March 12th, 2005, 03:23 PM I won't be buying digital tomorrow or anything because right now I just want my 80-300mm zoom and a circular polarizer.
Are you shooting with Canon now? If not then why get lenses, filters & such if you are making a switch? I can't remember what brand you are using, but Mom uses a Pentax :D
If you really love your camera then I would stick with the brand and get something compatible for the lenses.
Also, my intro to digital was this tiny point & shoot that a friend gave me one year. I then went out & purchased an inexpensive but best megapixel & zoom I could find on a point & shoot and that was on a Nikon. I played with that for two years before investing the money in my 10D. If you really want to play with digital try & pickup a cheap one on ebay.
Trust me, I am the first one who will agree with you to buy a Canon, but I hate to waste money, and if you love what you have sometimes it is just worth keeping.
kris10 March 12th, 2005, 03:29 PM Well, I will always be partial to Nikon Film but I have heard a lot of great things about Canon Digital so if I do get digital, I believe I will use them for that...who says I can't use the two major competitors at the same time....;).
Cleo March 12th, 2005, 03:30 PM And some stores like futureshop *maybe bestbuy* let you take it back within 30 days if you dont want it.
I think BestBuy charges a 15% restocking fee on returns.
kixphotography March 12th, 2005, 03:50 PM I would go with whatever lenses you currently have. You can get the D70 now the kit has a 200 dollar rebate going on!
Cleo March 12th, 2005, 03:57 PM Well, I will always be partial to Nikon Film but I have heard a lot of great things about Canon Digital so if I do get digital, I believe I will use them for that...who says I can't use the two major competitors at the same time....
You go! But what an expense on the accessories!!
I had both Nikon & Canon film cameras for a while, side by side, I felt each shot as well as the other BUT (and this is an important but that will probably get mine kicked) I felt that Canon had better lens quaility.
Do what makes you happy, that's what it's all about anyway! :D
GerryDavid March 12th, 2005, 11:11 PM Kris, what film camera do you use now? I may have misread what you were saying but I think you said nikon. If so and you want to use a canon digital later, you shouldnt buy the 300mm zoom that would work on your nikon, but not any future canon digital.
If you want a long lens, and just want to use it for fun, you could get a mirror lens that gives you 500mm F8 for around $100us. Then get a x2 converter to make it a 1000mm F16. But I hear the quality isnt great. But it sounds like it could be a fun lens for the price/zoom. 1600mm with the 1.6 crop factor.
Over here the futureshop doesnt charge a restockign fee. Ive bought a couple things that werent small purchass that ive taken back and I got the full price back. But some people abuse it, buy the canon 300d, take it back in 30 days, then rebuy it from the refurbished pile and save 10 or 15%.
kris10 March 13th, 2005, 12:35 AM Kris, what film camera do you use now? I may have misread what you were saying but I think you said nikon. If so and you want to use a canon digital later, you shouldnt buy the 300mm zoom that would work on your nikon, but not any future canon digital.
I have a Nikon N55 and am planning on upgrading it to at least the N80 body. I believe Nikon film will ALWAYS be my preference but to be able to find a reasonable priced digital where I could practice the manual stuff and have it for convenience would be nice.
The 70-300mm is a definite. I have sooooo many ideas here for photo's but my cripple right now is NOT having a zoom. There are so many options here...I want to get out this summer and get some of the wildlife here such as the Great White Egret at sundown or the Pelicans when they are diving in the water.
I also don't think I would like converters or the lenses that magnify stuff like that. I would rather the lens I purchase be capable of shooting long range. I would rather have a bigger zoom then what I am getting but it will work for now. It is less that 200.00 and I surely believe it will pay for itself soon enough as much as I believe I will use it.
ohenry March 13th, 2005, 12:40 AM heather...if you're investing in Nikon lenses, it makes much more sense to use a Nikon digital so that you can share the lenses between your film and digital cameras. JMO
GerryDavid March 13th, 2005, 12:40 AM Instead of getting a d70, isnt there older nikon's that are more affordable now due to being discontinued and used? This way you would get the dslr wehre you could practice the manual stuff and not spend a small fortune, just a tiny fortune. :0)
kixphotography March 13th, 2005, 12:42 AM Reasonable priced digital....get D70 body. About as reasonable as you're going to get.
Inspiration March 19th, 2005, 01:10 AM I have a Digital Canon EOS Rebel, it was $1000. but if you have a canon slr camera, the lenses are interchangeable which is very nice. I love it. My problem is I use automatic most of the time. I really need to start playing around with it more and learn how to be more creative with using the other settings.
Inspiration March 19th, 2005, 01:11 AM I have a Digital Canon EOS Rebel, it was $1000. but if you have a canon slr camera, the lenses are interchangeable which is very nice. I love it. My problem is I use automatic most of the time. I really need to start playing around with it more and learn how to be more creative with using the other settings.
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