What Would/ Should you Do?

So, I go to this shoot today. The first resort I go to that I'd called on and made plans...well, it sucked. Smelled of urine, not very nice looking, etc. Anyway, we go next door to the other resort. I walk in to the front desk, explain I wanted to take photos of a client, and ask if there's a nice place to do so. I was told, sure...follow me, this will be a good place. I'll walk with you and let you in.

So, we do our shoot and as we're walking out, the "owner" stops us, asks if we're owners, guests, etc. Our reply being no, she said we should not be there and should not be taking photos. Of course all was explained and I'm assuming dude at the front got his arse reamed but anyway...

Proceeded to say photos needed to be destroyed/ not published, or used. Finally said would be okay just for Bride's useage on an album, but if seen on website, etc. legal action would be taken.

how does this work. I plan to just save face and honor her request, but technically I DID have permission to be there. I'm a little upset I can't use on my own site for my promotion, I got some good ones. But, oh well....

I guess they're contracted and they do all their weddings and photographers from a bridal website or something. It should all go as just water under the bridge, but for future reference I will ask to speak to the owners!

Private property requires a property release under the same guise as a model release.

That's kind of what I was thinking. The whole kicker is, we had permission...just from the wrong person. Made for crappy day.

Unfortunately, word of mouth doesn't carry much weight in our litigious society.

Very true. It was quite a learning experience. "Always find out who's REALLY in charge!!" LOL

and get it in writing! :D

Yes! My collection of forms I carry with me in my bag is increasing....lol.

Like what?
I haven't done any photo shoots for money yet, just freebies for friends.

What sorts of forms do you carry?

model release and property release. some even carry the us law that pertains to photographing in public, photographers rights. But I doubt that form would do much against a police officer that has his mind set.

Did you create these forms yourself or did you find some kind of template? I am interested in something for public photography and limits of liability for weddings, etc.

I got mine from my book, photographers marketplace, and I adapted them for group shots as well. Ive seen some others listed on some forums

I dont have a wedding contracts yet, but thats something I should look up. Might just be easier to have a laywer in the area youll be working draft one up with points you want to highlight. It may cost a c note but it might be worth while. Something from the net may not be legal or hold up in court.

One thing I read on another forum is to not say the initial deposit is nonrefundable to hold the date, but to call it a retainer, since deposit implies it is refundable. This is something Id want to talk to a laywer about.

Ive also read that even if you contrat says your not liable for anything, its still a good idea to get liability insurrance just incase something happens.

Again on another forum I read about a photog that meets up with a group of photog friends bi-yearly. Since the last meeting 2 or 3 of them used thier liability insurrance. One had a flash explode for some odd reason and start a small file. Even though the damage was minor it would ave cost him thousands of dollars in repairs and profit lost from the location being closed for a couple of days for repairs. the other friendn in that group had his Canon 1ds Mark II on a tripod with some L glass get knocked over by kids running around. He used his gear insurrance on that one.

Also noted was that if your gear was covered under house insurrance and not business, the insurrance company doesnt have to pay up if it was damaged while on the job.

Sorry to go a bit off topic there, hehe.

I bought a book of legal forms for photographers from Amazon.com awhile ago. They're a little generic, I think, though. Is a book like that a good resource for forms, or should I do some digging to find state-specific legal paperwork?