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Old August 31st, 2017, 11:14 PM
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Not to Everybodys' Taste, but . . . .

Yes, I shoot a lot of film, mostly large format. I also shoot a lot of digital, but black and white is all film. I've been working on a project . . . .. .

THE QUEST IS OVER! For years now, I have been trying to find an ultra-grainy replacement for Kodak Recording Film 2475. Today's films are all too good. Grainless and mostly boring. Well, the search is over. Using a half-frame SLR (the Olympus Pen FT), a Zuiko 50-90mm zoom and Ilford's Delta 3200 film developed in Rodinal at 1:25, I've discovered a replacement that not only gives that "1950's Magazine Look", it enhances certain glamour shots, like this one of my lovely cello student Katie Wiens. And the grain is sharp-edged and clear, not mushy like 2475. EUREKA!!!!!






To give you an idea of what old 2475 Recording film looked like, here is a shot of the side of a grain elevator in Saskatchewan I took a few years back, also with a Pen FT half frame. The grain is mushier and the edges softer. This surveillance film was popular in the 60s for it's grain effects. There is nothing like it now, save what I've "developed" above.



The necessity of using a partial negative or a sub-miniature formate is the only way to come close to the past in this regard. I realize this is definitely retro and not to everybody's taste, but hey, ya gotta do what ya gotta do!!!

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Old September 3rd, 2017, 03:57 PM
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Re: Not to Everybodys' Taste, but . . . .

I like these Gordo. Vwery well done.
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Re: Not to Everybodys' Taste, but . . . .

Grain adds texture and that is used masterfully in both shots Gord. That's though the real trick with shooting a high grain film, making the grain work for you.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 01:58 AM
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Re: Not to Everybodys' Taste, but . . . .

Thank you both very much!
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Old September 12th, 2017, 10:23 AM
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Re: Not to Everybodys' Taste, but . . . .

For me, the portrait would be better in a brighter, clear shot. The pose, the model, the setting all call for a less gritty look.

The second one seems more appropriate all the way around.
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Old September 14th, 2017, 07:04 PM
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Re: Not to Everybodys' Taste, but . . . .

Easy to do - as I mentioned above, I was on a mission to find something. But I'm not the type of person to waste a photo session with experimentation . . . . I did the usual digital color photos as well, during the shoot.

As I also stated in the original post, this grain stuff is most certainly not to everybody's taste, but there are great fashion and figure photographers, like Richard Avedon and Peter Gowland, who used the B&W grain thing to huge advantage.

Most photographers today are brought up on color and on digital imaging. Most of them dislike these grain effects in portrait and figure photography. I happen to like them, and think that they add a nostalgic character to the glamour perspective. It took me about 3 years to find a way of duplicating (or at least coming close to) old effects.

Here's one of the digital photos from this session. Pentax K-S1, 90mm Tamron Macro f2.8, 1/60th at f2.8, ISO 400





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